There was a problem with today's Soyuz launch (crew OK)

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10/11/2018 at 06:17 • Filed to: None

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It seems the astronauts are safe.

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Kinja'd!!! facw > AuthiCooper1300
10/11/2018 at 06:42

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Wow, good that they were able to get down safely, but if this results in Soyuz being grounded for any length of time, they might end up evacuating the ISS. We have plenty of other ways to get supplies there, but the space agencies aren’t going to be keen on leaving people up if they don’t have a way to get new personnel to the station.


Kinja'd!!! pip bip - choose Corrour > AuthiCooper1300
10/11/2018 at 06:50

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someone goofed in assembling the rocket


Kinja'd!!! facw > pip bip - choose Corrour
10/11/2018 at 06:54

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I think you mean MORE AMERICAN SABOTAGE! Surely these highly talented and professional Russian workers would never let any production errors make it through.


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > facw
10/11/2018 at 07:10

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What would the plan be for getting people off the ISS without the Soyuz?


Kinja'd!!! bhtooefr > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
10/11/2018 at 07:20

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Well, they could evacuate the station without sending any more Soyuz up, but attached Soyuz craft are the escape method.


Kinja'd!!! Jayhawk Jake > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
10/11/2018 at 07:23

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There’s a soyuz capsule up there they can take 


Kinja'd!!! facw > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
10/11/2018 at 07:25

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They always use the last Soyuz sent up as a life boat so there’s not a problem. Normally the station has two attached at any point it is fully crewed. One was sent down last week (with half the station’s crew, to make room for these two new people) , but the other is still up there if they decide they need to get people off the station.

If there is any problem, there is another Soyuz scheduled for launch in December (seems unlikely now), but that must be completed or near completion, so they could send it up unmanned if necessary to provide another way off.

In an extremely dire circumstance, the first SpaceX Crew Dragon flight (unmanned) is scheduled for January, so they might be able to accelerate that given some lead time as well.


Kinja'd!!! AuthiCooper1300 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
10/11/2018 at 07:28

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Soyuz MS- 09, the one which carried the present crew, is still u p there and acts both as return vehicle and as “lifeboat”.

I t s e e m s t h e p r o b l e m t o d a y a f f e c t e d o n e o f t h e l a u n c h v e h i c l e ’ s b o o s t ers (or rather, its separation sequ e n c e ) . O b v i o u s l y M S - 0 9 h a s n o s u c h t h i n g s o i t s h o u l d b e safe .


Kinja'd!!! OPPOsaurus WRX > AuthiCooper1300
10/11/2018 at 08:14

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wow, worlds highest le vel code brown


Kinja'd!!! ttyymmnn > facw
10/11/2018 at 08:39

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Soyuz used its launch abort system for the first time in September 1983 after a Soyuz T rocket caught fire on the launch pad seconds before liftoff. The capsule’s launch escape system pulled the crew away from the rocket seconds before the vehicle exploded.

In 1975, a crewed Soyuz rocket suffered an inflight failure, causing an abort 295 sec. after launch. The crew landed safely, but experienced forces up to 21g during descent. ( Aviation Week )


Kinja'd!!! ttyymmnn > AuthiCooper1300
10/11/2018 at 08:40

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Soyuz used its launch abort system for the first time in September 1983 after a Soyuz T rocket caught fire on the launch pad seconds before liftoff. The capsule’s launch escape system pulled the crew away from the rocket seconds before the vehicle exploded.

In 1975, a crewed Soyuz rocket suffered an inflight failure, causing an abort 295 sec. after launch. The crew landed safely, but experienced forces up to 21g during descent. ( Aviation Week )


Kinja'd!!! William Byrd > AuthiCooper1300
10/11/2018 at 08:45

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How much aid will we be sending to Russia? 


Kinja'd!!! user314 > facw
10/11/2018 at 12:40

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Problem with that is the Soyuz has only a 160-180 day on-orbit life time. After that too much of the hydrogen peroxide used in the maneuvering jets has decomposed.


Kinja'd!!! facw > user314
10/11/2018 at 12:43

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Yep, it sounds like they will have to evacuate unless they can get a new craft up there by some point in January (I assume there’s a great deal safety margin in that timeline, but I also imagine they wouldn’t want to risk decreasing it unless there was a critical need to keep the station manned).


Kinja'd!!! user314 > ttyymmnn
10/11/2018 at 13:10

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experienced forces up to 21g during descent.

Ow. 


Kinja'd!!! RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > AuthiCooper1300
10/11/2018 at 14:53

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Lucky....people like to pic on Russian quality, but the Soyuz is pretty damn safe. Something to be said for honing the same design for umpteen years!


Kinja'd!!! AuthiCooper1300 > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
10/11/2018 at 15:42

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I basically a g r e e , b u t o n t h e c o m m e n t s s e c t i o n of the r e l e v a n t Gizmodo article s o m e p e o p l e p o i n t o u t t h a t t h e R u s s i a n s p a c e p r o g r a m m e s s e e m t o h a v e h a d q u i t e a f e w p r o b l e m s l a t e l y... a n d t h at the Russian space i n d u s t r y i s s u f f e r i n g f r o m some sort of brain d r a i n : t h e i r b e s t e x p e r t s a r e b e i n g p o a c h e d b y o t h e r c o m p a n i e s and/ o r h a v e l e f t t h e c o u n t r y t o w o r k e l s e w h e r e .